Another rant on the Evening News website!

Someone called Hmm… posted this on the Evening News site about this site:

“… In Edinburgh could be called a propagandist – or did I just not find the part that details the disadvantages of trams? Without that, the website cannot in truth be “the truth”!”

He/she seems to have missed the point entirely! Sure there are disadvantages to trams (you can’t change the route, for example), but everywhere we read the most ridiculous myths about them, and this site answers them as best it can. That comment also demonstrates what we see so often in tram opponents – dismissing everything that does not concur with what they already believe.

And maybe Mr Hmm… could list some of the advantages of trams?

There do exist reasoned arguments against trams and at the end of the day it is a political/strategic decision to decide whether those disadvantages outweigh the many benefits, but so often, all we get from tram opponents such as Hmm… is hysteria and ill-informed nonsense (one notable site said that people pushing for trams would be responsible for every death on the A9).

Please feel free to email in any REASONED arguments against the trams: welovetrams @ (you will need to cut and paste).


Had plenty of comments about this site and trams: so many people with such positive things to say about trams.

This one says it all:

“The detail in the myth-busting is excellent, the best I’ve seen, and the photos are cast-iron rebuttal material”.

If you want to get in touch, email this: welovetrams @

If you must email to have a go at trams – please do not merely repeat things that are already posted on here. For example, don’t say “nobody supports trams” unless you have some new statistical evidence to prove it, such as a published survey (asking your mum and dad doesn’t count).

If you have a new “myth” you want me to have a go at busting, feel free to send it to me.

I’ve seen the kind of abuse that passes for dialogue on scotsman. com – I will publish email addresses of anyone who sends me such abuse.

Why don’t I allow comments? I have been asked..

Well, you can comment, it is just that I have chosen not to let them get posted, unless they are really good. They all sit in my own bit of the site. Why? Well, the answer is simple. Tram opponents post what they like on the Evening News and Scotsman sites, which has way more readers than this – if they want to post somewhere, they can carry on posting there.

And what would be the point of letting them post? For example, under the bit about whether it was tram line or a tram network, where I had written that there was parliamentary permission to build two tram lines, but that for the time being, because of budget restraints, only one line was being built in the first phase, the comment I got was: “you idiot, anyone with a brain can see that they are only building a tram LINE not a network”

So what was the point of the comment? No idea.

More on construction disruption

Received this in response to piece about construction disruption (see it below):

“‘Without trams, all of these utilities will at some point be dug up.’ – but not necessarily involving total road closures for very long periods. If you do not think it needs to be disruptive speak to the people in Sheffield, Nottingham or even Croydon.”


Is it better to have the road closed entirely for a while in return for no roadworks whatsoever for the foreseeable future, thus getting it over and done with, or would you prefer to have the road continually partially dug up by different utilities time after time, with associated regular disruption?


Because the road works, utilities relocation etc are part of the tram project, businesses affected will get COMPENSATION.

Unfortunately, here I have to quote from TIE’s website. This is the compensation:

“In addition to this, tie has worked with the Council and the Edinburgh Chamber of Commerce to introduce a package for those businesses directly affected by the works. This includes a minimum 20% reduction in Business Rates, a Small Business Top Up Financial Support Scheme and an “Open for business” Communication and Marketing package for the city centre during the construction phase”. There will be no compensation if the trams don’t go ahead, but the road works do.